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[6:27] <postman-bot> kezman rented a sign saying "#http://stendhal.game-host.org/wiki/index.php/StendhalRuleSystem"
[6:29] <postman-bot> kezman rented a sign saying "#http://stendhal.game-host.org/wiki/index.php/StendhalRuleSystem"
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[8:35] * Topic is 'Stendhal 0.74 and Marauroa 2.6.2 released: http://arianne.sourceforge.net/?arianne_url=games/game_stendhal#downloadsection][ public server: http://stendhal.game-host.org ][ want to chat?: /join #arianne-chat ] [ ANY QUESTIONS?: Just ask them and stick around in the channel, maybe an answer will pop up later ]'
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[15:54] <hendrik> Skye does not respond to "nice things" nor "blue words", only to a single word.
[15:56] <postman-bot> Administrator SHOUTS: Hi, there will be some database maintenance starting in 5 minutes. It will last for about 10 minutes. I am not sure but it might cause really high and long lag, perhaps so long that you might be disconnected.
[16:00] <postman-bot> Administrator SHOUTS: Hi, please be careful. Database maintenance is starting now and will last for about 10 minutes. I am not sure but it might cause really high and long lag, perhaps so long that you might be disconnected.
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[16:01] <hendrik> ouuch, that is worse than espected.
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[16:02] <hendrik> I hate mysql: ERROR 1235 (42000): This version of MySQL doesn't yet support 'LIMIT & IN/ALL/ANY/SOME subquery'
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[17:21] <kymara> hendrik: i think that has been a problem ever since the npc parser changes
[17:21] <kymara> for example #dwarven #kingdom in the kanmarnarn soldiers quest too, he would only respond to dwarven
[17:22] <kymara> i can't remember if i tried changing it to add 'dwarven knigdom' in full as a trigger. it used to match said trigger anything so since nice is a trigger, nice things used to work
[17:23] <kymara> not that that info necessarily helps :)
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[17:38] <JasonHilo> Ok i have a problem to add the server extensions. I get erros... the onlyone that works is the TeleportSend
[17:41] <hendrik> which server extensions are you trying to add?
[17:41] <JasonHilo> the Http Server
[17:41] <JasonHilo> at first
[17:41] <hendrik> oh god, does that still exist?
[17:42] <JasonHilo> dunno is it outdated? i have run the CVS right away
[17:43] <hendrik> yes, we should do some clean up there.
[17:43] <hendrik> the current website is in the cvs module stendal_website. It is written in PHP.
[17:43] <hendrik> The integreated website was written in grovy, never finished and caused great lag in game.
[17:43] <hendrik> It hast not been touched for about 2 years and has bit-rotted since then.
[17:44] <JasonHilo> oh ok ty. Is the stendhal_website at sourceforge also opensource? so can i take it?
[17:45] <JasonHilo> im expirienced in HTML and PHP. I would rewrite some things..... So not just a simpe copy
[17:46] <hendrik> yes, but it is AGPL, meaning that you are required to provide the source code, even if you only host it without download.
[17:47] <JasonHilo> oh so i out the source code e.g to download? or do i have to make a page where the source is written?
[17:47] <JasonHilo> give out*
[17:48] <hendrik> you need to provide it in some way, for example a .zip file or an annonyous CVS access.
[17:48] <JasonHilo> oh ok
[17:48] <hendrik> the difference between the GPL and the AGPL is this: The GPL only requires you to provide the source code if you distribute the software. The AGPL requires you to provide the source code if you allow access to the software.
[17:49] <hendrik> So you do not need to provide source code for a GPL website you host. But you need to provide source code for a AGPL website you host.
[17:49] <hendrik> the gpl was written before websites or "software as a service" were invented.
[17:51] <JasonHilo> ok 1 more question about the server. Is it semilar to the game server or is it something different and run on its own?
[17:51] <CIA-30> arianne_rpg: nhnb * stendhal/ (38 files in 8 dirs): deleted groovy website which was started in 2006, never finished and replaced by stendhal_website in php in 2008
[17:58] <JasonHilo> But when i write my own website, i do not have to give out the source right? So its not from arianne/stendhal
[17:58] <hendrik> right
[17:58] <JasonHilo> ok tyvm
[18:02] <JasonHilo> Im off :=) so ty again and cya
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[18:10] <raignarok> hi, the link at arianne.sourceforge.net to the stendhal houses wiki page points to http://stendhal.game-host.org/wiki/index.php/StendhalHouses" <-- including this ", which is wrong. (news, Stendhal 0.74)
[18:15] <hendrik> raignarok, thanks for reporting it.
[18:15] <hendrik> Does anyone know how the new SF.net shell server works? I only get: ssh_exchange_identification: read: Connection reset by peer
[18:17] <kymara> yes
[18:17] <kymara> you need to request to create a shell
[18:17] <kymara> but they usually remind you how when you try
[18:17] <kymara> i will get the details one moment
[18:17] <hendrik> kymara, could you fix the link, please?
[18:17] <kymara> ssh -t develname,arianne@shell.sourceforge.net create
[18:18] <kymara> the details are in doc/releasing.txt and is up to date for all new sf stuff
[18:18] <kymara> yes i can fix
[18:18] <kymara> if you missed the -t and the create, that is when you get instructiosn, iirc
[18:18] <hendrik> hendrik@hendrik:~$ ssh -t nhnb,arianne@shell1.sf.net create
[18:18] <hendrik> ssh_exchange_identification: read: Connection reset by peer
[18:19] <hendrik> perhaps they are not accepting my private key?
[18:19] <hendrik> can you log in at the moment?
[18:20] <kymara> i logged in just now
[18:20] <kymara> strange, maybe because you used a different shell address?
[18:20] <kymara> i used shell.sourceforge.net
[18:21] <hendrik> ahh, that worked.
[18:21] <kymara> fixed the page now it was missing the leading "
[18:22] <kymara> thanks raignarok
[18:22] <raignarok> no problem
[18:23] <kymara> iirc the spouse extension still exists too, even though marriage and therefore spouses is written into the game now
[18:24] <kymara> just if you feel like more cleanup hendrik :D
[18:24] <hendrik> I was not sure about that.
[18:25] <hendrik> I am not sure about magic, either, but there is even a test case for that.
[18:26] <kymara> that might have been the stuff timmy started
[18:26] <kymara> with mana etc
[18:30] <hendrik> yes.
[18:30] <hendrik> and martin wrote a test.
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[18:39] <JasonHilo> Ok so far so good. I need help with the creatures Editor. Because when i pick penguin (e.g) it doesn't show up on the preview correctly. Is it able to make the preview window bigger?
[18:40] <JasonHilo> with source edit of course?
[18:45] <wunderhug> i've worked on the preview source a little but i havent submitted anything yet..can view up to black dragon in size :P
[18:47] <JasonHilo> just take my IDE and make it a bit bigger. Maybe it works :P
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[18:54] <postman-bot> nissaru rented a sign saying "i need 13 wood,i will give 1,3k.tell nisshop"
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[19:42] <Kinglongg> Hey can someone tell me if there is an updated admin scripts command? Because (e.g) the NPCShout.class doesn't work anymore or?
[19:42] <Kinglongg> command list*
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[19:52] <kymara> it shoudl work
[19:53] <kymara> perhaps there is another reason for the error? maybe it isn't loaded onto your server (not placed in some folder beneath your server folder) or your server startup script does not refer to that location
[19:53] <kymara> or perhaps you aren't giving correct parameters
[19:53] <kymara> anyway, /gmhelp_script in stendhal 0.74 or before and /gmhelp script in cvs head shoudl give you the most used scripts
[19:54] <kymara> the creatures editor (if you mean the xml editor is quite outdated also. i for one have never ever used it, i think only the person who added it to the code base has actually ever used it and when i asked for help with it he just said that a lot is broken.
[19:54] <kymara> i edit creature.xml in a text editor
[19:54] <kymara> and i use balance rp game to check teh values
[19:55] <kymara> it shoudl all be explained on the wiki page on how to make creatures?
[19:58] <kymara> maybe we shouldn't make that creatures editor available since we don't know how to provide support for it
[19:58] <kymara> bbl need to check on dinner :P
[20:00] <Kinglongg> hmm how can i fix the script error? i cant use any scripts .....
[20:00] <Kinglongg> maybe installing new or anything faster?
[20:05] <Kinglongg> My scripts are in the folder development/stendhal/src/game......../scripts. Is it wrong?
[20:06] <Kinglongg> script* not scripts
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[20:41] <osl> "My scripts are in the folder development/stendhal/src/game......../scripts. Is it wrong?" <- yes, http://stendhal.game-host.org/wiki/index.php/Scripts_For_Admins#On_a_localhost_server
[20:48] <kymara> unless you are running your server from eclipse
[20:48] <kymara> but if you were that location wouldn't be a problem :P
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[21:19] <KingLongg> Where can i change the Defaul_Server? I found it once but dont find it again..
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[21:24] <KingLongg> nvm i got it my self: development\stendhal\src\games\stendhal\client\update\DefaultGameProperties.java
[21:30] <hendrik> that is wrong.
[21:30] <KingLongg> ? it works o.o
[21:31] <hendrik> durkham, I don't know why you created that class, but please copy the comments that used to be in the default properties file.
[21:32] <KingLongg> now there you are here :) can i change the Popup messages that come up, when the client starts ? I wann add some messages
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[21:34] <hendrik> durkham, especially the ones about what to do in order to not break the auto-updater for both stendhal and ones own game.
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[21:38] <KingLongg> could you tell me where to find the file to change the messages, that popup when the client get started?
[21:42] <hendrik> i am not aware of any popup messages.
[21:44] <KingLongg> ? i dont mean make a popup window. just in the chat window. Explain: When you log in. Then in the chat window are messages comming up. cam i change themm?
[21:47] <hendrik> can you quote them?
[21:47] <KingLongg> yea w8
[21:49] <KingLongg> [21:49] This release is EXPERIMENTAL. Need help? http://stendhal.game-host.org/wiki/index.php/AskForHelp - please report problems, suggestions and bugs. Remember to keep your password completely secret, never tell to another friend, player, or admin.
[21:49] <KingLongg> this message comes up when i start playing Stendhal (my server)
[21:51] <hendrik> It should be easy to search for that in the files.
[21:52] <KingLongg> is it source edit? i searched in some folders for it
[21:52] <kymara> isn't that the server_welcome so you could also change it in your server.ini if you wanted?
[21:52] <kymara> why not search all folders :P
[21:53] <KingLongg> for whcih file? i dont know the fiel name
[21:53] <kymara> a decent search will search all files in any folder you specify, recursively
[21:53] <kymara> i don't expect you to know the file name but you could search for say 'This release is EXPERIMENTAL'
[21:54] <Bluelads4> :D
[21:54] <KingLongg> oh. I try xD
[21:54] <KingLongg> ty
[21:55] <kymara> i tried that and i found the file very easily, i could then look at it and confirm that that message is not used if you have already configured a server_welcome (in server.ini)
[21:56] <KingLongg> ah ok ty i found it :)
[21:57] <KingLongg> so just adding in server.ini: server_welcome=<msg i want to show>
[21:57] <KingLongg> ?
[21:58] <kymara> you could try that, yes
[22:01] <KingLongg> i got that all to work (not the server ini thing) once. A stupid script error ruined my server xD so i have to start from the beginning
[22:02] <Bluelads4> :D
[22:04] <kymara> ruined?
[22:05] <kymara> changing come config details and restarting teh server should take maybe 2 minutes max? 5 minutes on a slow machine?
[22:05] <kymara> if you change server.ini you don't have to rebuild or anything. it's a file read on server startup, and should live in your server directory (not development)
[22:06] <KingLongg> no i meant that i got that all working befor. But i couldn't use /script commands anymore. I tried to fix but needed to restart the whole server
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