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[0:06] <kymara> any objectiosn to me doing release of stendhal tonight and postpone marauroa release till tomorrow
[0:06] <kymara> if i postpone both that is fine too but i cant guarantee i will have any energy to do it till tuesday in that case
[0:07] <kymara> the stendhal clients, even updates ones would use correct marauroa
[0:10] <kymara> that was meant to be a question but i forgot the '?'. i will try again
[0:10] <kymara> any objections to me doing release of stendhal tonight, but postpone marauroa release till tomorrow?
[0:11] <durkham> not from here
[0:13] <kymara> i will try running it from a different port initially
[0:14] <postman-bot> Administrator SHOUTS: Hi, If all goes well stendhal 0.74 will be released tonight. Please be ready to logout in 3 minutes for a shut down. I need at least 10 minutes of time to work on the update so please don't try to log back in too fast as it simply won't be ready. Thanks.
[0:18] <postman-bot> Administrator SHOUTS: Hi, If all goes well stendhal 0.74 will be released tonight. Please logout now, thank you. I need at least 10 minutes of time to work on the update so please don't try to log back in too fast as it simply won't be ready. Thanks.
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[0:23] <kymara> i got no reports that the update wasnt working so i assume either it is or noone but me tried?
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[0:39] <kiheru_laptop> my client got updated when I ran it
[0:39] <kymara> yes, the client side stuff is all at 0.74 now. good
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[0:40] <Mein_Dino> mhm i get a message that my client is out of date but it will not update :D
[0:41] <durkham> you do not use a self build one do you ?
[0:42] <Mein_Dino> mhm?
[0:43] <kiheru_laptop> a standard client should get updated, a self build from the source should not
[0:44] <Mein_Dino> i have a standard client i think.. mhm
[0:45] <kymara> the ones from test server downlaod are also not standard
[0:46] <Mein_Dino> mhm ok.. maybe i have one of them...
[0:46] <kymara> you can also just downlaod a fresh one if you like
[0:47] <Mein_Dino> thats what i do now :D
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[1:00] <CIA-50> arianne_rpg: astridemma * stendhal/build.xml: added missing file to postman build
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[1:11] <postman-bot> Administrator SHOUTS: Hi, i forgot something. please come back in 2 minutes so i can restart thanks
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[1:14] <durkham> gnight
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[1:29] <kymara> project news added, game server website updated and with news, arianne.sf.net has news and changelog. havent emailed arianne announce yet but if anyone wishes to on my behalf please do feel free (its a moderated list but my own emails get moderated too so just go ahead) i know the amdin pages will have left some things on wiki out of date like gag, and stuff about support answer shortcuts and the support colour but i want to sleep now. if anyone
[1:30] <hendrik> kymara, "if anyone" and it was cut off.
[1:30] <kymara> if anyone else wants to edit them that would be great. thanks
[1:30] <kymara> :)
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[11:14] * Topic is 'Stendhal 0.73 and Marauroa 2.6.1 released: http://arianne.sourceforge.net/?arianne_url=games/game_stendhal#downloadsection][ public server: http://stendhal.game-host.org ][ want to chat?: /join #arianne-chat ] [ ANY QUESTIONS?: Just ask them and stick around in the channel, maybe an answer will pop up later ]'
[11:14] * Set by kymara on Tue Mar 31 18:35:38 CEST 2009
[11:14] [freenode-connect VERSION]
[11:14] <durkham> what i really dont get is why it works for a while and then stops
[11:19] <Bluelads4> it's an eye, it has to blink :D
[11:23] <postman-bot> guido rented a sign saying "buy cheese"
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[11:33] <Exiled> how to see my karma
[11:33] <Exiled> ?
[11:34] <durkham> there is ingame somewhere a npc-lady who tells you about
[11:34] <Exiled> where?
[11:34] <durkham> that is all info i can provide .
[11:35] <Exiled> and that is so much about nice and friendly
[11:35] <Exiled> chara work in any area ineed?
[11:36] <Exiled> ?
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[11:38] <durkham> tz not even saying hi :-D
[11:40] <erdnuggel> hehe
[11:42] <Bluelads4> nice guy...
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[14:53] <postman-bot> Bluelads4 rented a sign saying "hi everybody :) first of all thank you very much for the great new release! the other thing: I'm searching for a #horned #golden #helmet... if you are having one for sell, send me a pm please :)"
[15:00] <postman-bot> erdnuggel rented a sign saying "#thanks #for #this #great #release :o)"
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[15:57] <postman-bot> Bluelads4 rented a sign saying "hi everybody :) thank you very much for the new release! *hugs*"
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[17:53] <tigertoes> freshmeat and happypenguin updated
[17:56] <erdnuggel> hö?
[18:03] <durkham> hö? is just impolite
[18:03] <durkham> http://freshmeat.net/
[18:04] <durkham> http://happypenguin.org/
[18:04] <durkham> tx tiger for your work
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[19:38] <postman-bot> kezman rented a sign saying "Hello i thank you for repairing house 49 Hola les doy las gracias por la reparación de la casa 49"
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[21:08] <kymara> Marauroa 2.6.2 release done also now
[21:08] <kymara> sending arianne-announce email. i dont think anyone else tried to after my comment on it as if they had it would have shown up by now
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[21:09] * kymara changes topic to 'Stendhal 0.74 and Marauroa 2.6.2 released: http://arianne.sourceforge.net/?arianne_url=games/game_stendhal#downloadsection][ public server: http://stendhal.game-host.org ][ want to chat?: /join #arianne-chat ] [ ANY QUESTIONS?: Just ask them and stick around in the channel, maybe an answer will pop up later ]'
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[21:27] <kymara> i made a spelling mistake in the email but hey hp
[21:27] <kymara> ho
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[22:38] <durkham> wooohooo kymara tx for the work :-)
[22:38] <kymara> releasing marauroa is a breeze compared to stendhal ;)
[22:39] <durkham> that tx inlcuded the for stendhal too :-) if you want a seperate one , i will be more than happy to do so :-)
[22:39] <kymara> no thats ok
[22:39] <kymara> i need to fix soemthing on branch though
[22:40] <kymara> you know the challenger npc for adventure island that we dont want released yet?
[22:40] <durkham> yes
[22:40] <kymara> last time it seems i only removed him from branch not head, perhaps thinking he shoudl be tested more in test etc
[22:40] <kymara> and uh yes he got into release
[22:40] <kymara> luckily the person who found him first is very responsible and good and told dino who then told me
[22:40] <kymara> and i hid him away ;)
[22:41] <durkham> phew
[22:41] <durkham> :-)
[22:41] <kymara> (that was bigmomma who found him)
[22:41] <durkham> did we have more of those server stop thingies after the fixing change to marauroa ?
[22:42] <kymara> i dont think so no. no fatal errors like that.
[22:43] <durkham> only some NullPointerExceptions ?
[22:43] * durkham tries to remember
[22:43] <kymara> still npe on the sync personal chest content
[22:44] <kymara> but that would be fixed now in 0.74 i think
[22:45] <CIA-50> arianne_rpg: kymara VERSION_00_RELEASE_74 * stendhal/data/conf/zones/fado.xml: comment out teh challenger npc
[22:45] <durkham> thne we might send some overly evil testers to the challenger guy on test :-)
[22:45] <kymara> i had some ideas for him
[22:45] <kymara> how to improve it so he doesnt just have to warn 'if you die you lose your items'
[22:45] <durkham> remeber how bleutailfly always found things we never could have guessed :-D
[22:46] <kymara> if we can not tear down zone as soon as last entity leaves
[22:46] <kymara> but instead set a timer for ten minutes
[22:46] <kymara> and let return in that time for free to same zone. (normally he says no return within 3 days)
[22:46] <kymara> and then if they died they can get items from corpse
[22:46] <kymara> (10 minutes is also corpse expiry time which is why i picked it)
[22:46] <kymara> and if they just got d/c then they can maybe go kill any creature they were annoyed about not finishing killing
[22:47] <kymara> then after the ten minute timer is up, tear down zone. can you see any problems with that? it solves what i was worried about from the player point of view
[22:48] <kymara> (they dont get new creatures spawned if they return in ten minutes, its literally just a visit to that same zone they wre in before with whatever was in it)
[22:48] <durkham> i am a bot worried about the timer thingy
[22:49] <durkham> just dont know instantly why
[22:49] <kymara> ok. well there is no rush. can you think about it a bit, or that problem, and see what you think
[22:50] <durkham> your worry is that player who die theree cannot get back their items ?
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[22:50] <durkham> either by being weak or d/c
[22:51] <kymara> yes that is the main worry
[22:51] <kymara> he warns loads about it but i think its still a very big risk to take for the player even when he knows the risk
[22:52] <kymara> also since its a privilege to be allowed in once every 3 days, an early d/c through a timeout would be pretty annoying. beling allowed back for a short time may help soothe that a bit
[22:52] <durkham> could we give the items to the challenger npc ?
[22:53] <durkham> you died but i collected your stuff, for only <horrendous amount> you can get it back :-D
[22:53] <kymara> i'm not sure. you'd have to locate any player corpses in the zone before it was torn down and then get the items. there will be creature corpses too
[22:53] <kymara> i like the idea of paying an amount :D
[22:53] <kymara> it would have to be done with storage
[22:53] <durkham> we can make the zone watch for player corpses
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[22:54] <durkham> so that if a player corpse is added to zone it sends the stuff to challenger npc
[22:54] <durkham> if that one had an enourmous slot for slots for playerstuff
[22:55] <durkham> ah db issue
[22:55] <durkham> he could have a storable npc only chest
[22:55] <durkham> with endless inventory
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[22:56] <durkham> i.e. a special one
[22:56] <kymara> hm, ok i see the difference in that approach, add with the player corpse not check on zone removal
[22:56] <kymara> i dont think he need store them too long
[22:56] <kymara> if player doesnt come back in 24 hours i think he isnt interested
[22:56] <kymara> is that harder to do
[22:57] <durkham> we could make the npc , look into chest every 24 hours and sort it
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[22:57] <durkham> that is a bit of coding but surely would be fun
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[23:07] <kymara> i'd be much happier to include him in release in that case
[23:17] <postman-bot> sudoble rented a sign saying "i buy golden legs"
[23:20] <durkham> a feature request titled : challenger must not be a horder :-D
[23:21] <durkham> if we had it only for 10 minutes we did not need to bother about server restart
[23:22] <kymara> i think that would also be fair enough as the corpse expires in ten
[23:24] <durkham> maybe we could just move them into a off-sight zone , and the npc checks the corpses on ground there , and the dynamic zones just teleport the corpses of players to the off-sight zone
[23:25] <durkham> so to say the npc's pocket zone :-)
[23:25] <durkham> corpses would then just expire as they do
[23:26] <durkham> no new feature involved (iirc)
[23:26] <postman-bot> kymara rented a sign saying "So, my ignore list has 57 people on it!! Does anyone have more people ignored? You can check the content of your list with typing simply #/ignore"
[23:26] <durkham> wooo a new contest
[23:27] <kymara> some of them are typos, maybe i should have mentioned that
[23:27] <durkham> noooo
[23:27] <kymara> newly added ones just to compete dont count
[23:27] <durkham> cheating is ok for highlevel admins :-D
[23:27] <durkham> we are 'trusted' thats why we are allowed to :-P
[23:28] * durkham @ all: that was a joke !
[23:29] <durkham> i could write a script to add all people currently logged in to the ignore list :-)
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[23:47] <kymara> a player just shared this picture with me, it is a stendhal picture
[23:47] <kymara> http://img34.imageshack.us/my.php?image=raid.png
[23:51] <durkham> yeah nice
[23:52] <postman-bot> knuckless rented a sign saying "Hello All #Sell #5000 #Meat :)"
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