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[4:31] <postman-bot> shadon rented a sign saying "sell #1 #night #dangger offert my #shadon"
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[11:35] * Set by kymara on Tue Mar 31 18:35:38 CEST 2009
[11:36] [freenode-connect VERSION]
[12:40] <kymara> can anyone help me understand why the .stendhal-postman.xml file for the server is kept in the directory *above* folder containing the server jars and *above* the folder containing the postman run script?
[12:40] <kymara> the postman java file looks for it in ".stendhal-postman.xml" only i.e. i thought it would want it to be next to it or at very least in the classpath called when executing postman
[12:40] <kymara> but this would be ..
[12:41] <kymara> and the postman cp doesnt contain ..
[12:41] <kymara> so basically it's in /home/user/ instead of /home/user/server/ or /home/user/postman/ and i cant see either why, or how postman even sees it
[12:43] <kymara> when some other xml files are called, ones that exist in teh source code rather than more independent from it, they get called relative to the root stendhal directory of the code, i.e. data/conf/creatures.xml - so a different thign again - though i can at least see the sanity of that :D
[12:43] <kymara> and how that works
[12:45] <durkham> probabaly the insane programmer ( thats me ) did not bother
[12:45] <durkham> feel fre to change it
[12:46] <durkham> could also be that it was a quick and dirty fix or answer to someone who did urge us to support unsupported postman
[12:46] <kymara> no i dont wish to change
[12:46] <durkham> that might have caused the insane programmer not to bother
[12:46] <kymara> or fix as it is not broken
[12:46] <kymara> i wish to understand hwo it works
[12:47] <kymara> how is soemthing above the directories seen?
[12:47] <kymara> thats all i am asking, just to understand how it works so i can apply the same logic
[12:47] <durkham> there is a path given somewhere in the source
[12:47] <kymara> yes i think i pasted it
[12:47] <durkham> (no i do not remeber the source)
[12:47] <kymara> postman java file looks for it in ".stendhal-postman.xml" ?
[12:47] <kymara> or is there more
[12:47] <durkham> i go dig into source
[12:47] <kymara> there is private static final String STENDHAL_POSTMAN_XML = ".stendhal-postman.xml";
[12:48] <kymara> then
[12:48] <kymara> this.messages.loadFromXML(new FileInputStream(STENDHAL_POSTMAN_XML));
[12:48] <kymara> well i am pasting it here for you too
[12:51] <kymara> or you can just tell me where to put .riddles.xml and how to do the equivalent this.messages.loadFromXML(new FileInputStream(RIDDLES_XML)); line, defining RIDDLES_XML correctly
[12:51] <kymara> i wasnt tryign to complain about what is there i'm just saying i dont understand it
[12:54] * durkham is reading API of Fileinputstream now
[12:55] <kymara> ok. i can also just try hit and miss approach to see if it gets it but i just wondered if anyone had insight into how it worked like that
[12:56] <durkham> the string passed into constructor is the system dependant file name so it porbably only works because the underlying system searches through the home directory
[12:58] <kymara> so, something else is putting home or at least home/user/ on the classpath for anything run?
[12:58] <durkham> what you want is what is done in questsxmlreader and zonesxml reader
[12:58] <durkham> the getresource part of it
[12:59] <kymara> mhm, but there the relevant xml is in teh source code
[12:59] <durkham> line 64 in itemsxmlloader does it too
[12:59] <kymara> and we wanted this independent of source code
[12:59] <kymara> but will provide a dummy one
[12:59] <durkham> ?
[12:59] <kymara> which is why i looked at postman for example instead of them
[13:00] <kymara> this was your suggestion how to solve the problem of people looking up riddles in the source
[13:00] <durkham> not in the jars you mean
[13:00] <kymara> you said, we can make a config file using xml, and keep it in the server
[13:00] <kymara> i am trying to do that now
[13:00] <kymara> i dont know where is best to put it
[13:00] <kymara> you think data/conf
[13:00] <durkham> yes i know i said that and i know you try that
[13:00] <kymara> ok, shal i do data/conf then?
[13:01] <durkham> moment please
[13:03] <durkham> in PlayerRpclass the file admins.list is read directly from file system
[13:03] <durkham> in line 186
[13:03] <durkham> that is in /data/conf
[13:04] <kymara> right, thanks, thats a better example for me to follow than postman then
[13:04] <durkham> yw
[13:04] <kymara> i just needed something to work from
[13:07] <postman-bot> sudoble rented a sign saying "i buy dark dagger"
[13:11] <kymara> player rp class doesnt make a properties file from the admins list
[13:11] <kymara> it creates a list string of player names
[13:11] <kymara> its not clear to me what bits to use and what now
[13:11] <kymara> not
[13:12] <kymara> mine works fine following the postman example and makign a properties object containing teh riddles and answers as a key and entry, so that i can use the same logic i had before with the hashmap
[13:13] <kymara> as in, it compiles
[13:13] <kymara> but player rp class doesn't use anythignlike this.messages.loadFromXML(new FileInputStream(STENDHAL_POSTMAN_XML));
[13:16] <kymara> i'll try just setting the location to data/conf/ and see if it knows to look in server/data/conf/
[13:24] <kymara> doesnt work. from player rp class i cant see ho wi can use it as an exmaple . final InputStream is = player.getClass().getClassLoader().getResourceAsStream(
[13:24] <kymara> adminFilename);
[13:24] <kymara> dont know why extra characters pasted in there
[13:25] <kymara> anyway, it is making an input stream, fine, but i can't reproduce that in the solve riddles - here it's already using player class type things
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[14:03] <durkham> then just commit it and i will look at it
[14:08] <durkham> and i am sorry that i did not already do it
[14:43] <kymara> np. kiheru asked me for the files earlier and he found they already worked on his system using eclipse. i'll commit then he can commit some fixes he made
[14:46] <CIA-50> arianne_rpg: kymara * stendhal/ (2 files in 2 dirs): solve riddles quest reading the riddles from an xml config file instead of the source code.
[14:48] <kymara> the riddles.xml there still contains the dummy versions. eventually a riddles-example.xml will be all that is provided, i think, containing those dummy versions, and i will write the live server ones up
[14:57] <kiheru> doing the final tests for loading with riddles-example.xml as fallback atm
[15:11] <kymara> thank you
[15:15] <CIA-50> arianne_rpg: kiheru * stendhal/ (4 files in 3 dirs):
[15:15] <CIA-50> arianne_rpg: Load data/conf/riddles-example.xml if loading data/conf/riddles.xml
[15:15] <CIA-50> arianne_rpg: does not exist. Renamed icluded data/conf/riddles.xml to
[15:15] <CIA-50> arianne_rpg: data/conf/riddles-example.xml and included it in the ant build so that
[15:15] <CIA-50> arianne_rpg: servers without their own riddles keep working, but with the dummy
[15:15] <CIA-50> arianne_rpg: sample riddles.
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[18:16] <CIA-50> arianne_rpg: astridemma * stendhal/build.xml: server.zip now includes marauroa.jar
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[19:26] <tigertoes> kymara are you there?
[19:27] <tigertoes> i will just ask, and you can answer whenever
[19:27] <tigertoes> i noticed the houses have been updated on the website.. does that mean i can delete those images from imageshack?
[20:00] <kymara> i havent edited the page so i dont think that it was using teh image shack ones
[20:01] <kymara> if the page is updated from what i uplaoded to screens, that is what it was linking to already
[20:02] <tigertoes> ok, i will check before deleting
[20:02] <tigertoes> was just a quick glance
[20:02] <kymara> which images did you mean in particular? ones fo ados kalavan or kirdneh?
[20:02] <tigertoes> kirdneh
[20:02] <kymara> they were on screens/ already
[20:02] <tigertoes> oh
[20:03] <tigertoes> in that case, i delete..
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[20:52] <postman-bot> finix rented a sign saying "I will buy black armor or black boots"
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[21:00] <postman-bot> hamtaro rented a sign saying "still buying night dagger if any1 has extra...also if u have a good idea for the splash graphic lemme know...plan on drawing something soon :0"
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[23:21] <postman-bot> finix rented a sign saying "selling chaos hammer buying black armor and boots"
[23:22] <durkham> gnight
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