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[6:00] <postman-bot> hamtaro rented a sign saying "WTB night dagger...will S a D 4 1"
[6:02] <postman-bot> finix rented a sign saying "I buy 2 diamonds 2 obsidian vampire cloak and lich cloak. will pay double npc price"
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[9:32] * Topic is 'Stendhal 0.73 and Marauroa 2.6.1 released: http://arianne.sourceforge.net/?arianne_url=games/game_stendhal#downloadsection][ public server: http://stendhal.game-host.org ][ want to chat?: /join #arianne-chat ] [ ANY QUESTIONS?: Just ask them and stick around in the channel, maybe an answer will pop up later ]'
[9:32] * Set by kymara on Tue Mar 31 18:35:38 CEST 2009
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[10:03] <madmetzger> durkham: i uploaded a new patch to sf
[10:03] <madmetzger> durkham: did you already look at the annotations stuff?
[10:08] <durkham> not yet
[10:08] <durkham> sorry
[10:10] <madmetzger> np
[10:10] <durkham> atm i dont even find it :-(
[10:11] <madmetzger> look at games.stendhal.server.core.engine.GenericRPClassGenerator
[10:11] <madmetzger> there is a unit test for it
[10:14] <durkham> ah yes thanks
[10:14] <durkham> dear stendhalers please have a look at http://apps.sourceforge.net/wordpress/sourceforge/2009/05/12/upcoming-feature-deprecation-built-in-forums-docmanager-task-manager/
[10:15] <durkham> this affects our dicussion forum
[10:19] <durkham> madmetzger: scanning over the genericclassgenerator . how would that make class registration more handy ?
[10:20] <madmetzger> hopefully you do not need to call all the manual generateRPClass-methods
[10:21] <madmetzger> but at this state i think if i manage to automize (???) rpclass generation, next steps could make other steps of manual work obsolete
[10:22] <durkham> but you had to invoke the genericclasscreator instead ?
[10:22] <madmetzger> once, when server runs up
[10:22] <durkham> automatize
[10:22] <madmetzger> at some point you have to generate those rpclasses
[10:23] <madmetzger> i am not that far to replace current rpclass generation method, but atm i have the feeling it could be possible
[10:25] <madmetzger> my next step would be to handle attributes and slots of the entities
[10:25] <durkham> i feel uncomfortable with the idea of using annotation
[10:25] <madmetzger> if it works fine, it would be sth to put in marauroa
[10:25] <madmetzger> why?
[10:26] <durkham> i doubt it adds to readability
[10:26] <madmetzger> but it should save work
[10:26] <durkham> in how far ?
[10:27] <durkham> if you dont call the method the app blows
[10:27] <durkham> the generateRpclass
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[10:27] <madmetzger> no need to write the generateRPClass methods and register the rpclasses
[10:27] <durkham> no but you have to deal with the annotations instead
[10:28] <madmetzger> but you do not need to look at more than one place
[10:28] <madmetzger> and not for every attribute an annotation would be necessary
[10:28] <durkham> i wont hold you back to try on it , but i am not convinced
[10:29] <durkham> the test provided does not show the advantage you claim
[10:30] <durkham> you could try to make an independent piece of code to show it :-)
[10:31] <madmetzger> hm...
[10:31] <durkham> use 2 rpclasses with extra names test2 and test1 for example
[10:31] <durkham> and two rpobject of that calss
[10:31] <durkham> and convince me :-)
[10:32] <durkham> classes
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[10:32] <madmetzger> and i'll add the magic to RPClassGenerator?
[10:32] <durkham> no to yours
[10:32] <durkham> the generic...
[10:33] <madmetzger> okay, i will try my best to convince you, because i think it could make persistence easier
[10:34] <durkham> that is new topic :)
[10:34] <durkham> in how far would it make persistence easier ?
[10:34] <durkham> ok sorry
[10:35] * durkham waits for next try to convince her about annotation :-)
[10:36] * durkham is proud to have thrown that red herring away :-D
[10:37] <CIA-50> arianne_rpg: astridemma * stendhal/tests/games/stendhal/server/core/engine/GenericRPClassGeneratorTest.java: now throws duplicate rpclass exception :-P
[10:37] <durkham> :-* at madmetzger
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[11:54] <kymara> about the forums they say they will bring in phpbb instead, i wondered if we can embed that at stendhal.game-host.org since people request forums direct on that site
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[13:52] <postman-bot> erdnuggel rented a sign saying "HI! Who can sell me a broadword??? Please msg me :o)"
[13:54] <postman-bot> erdnuggel rented a sign saying "Hi! Who can sell me a broadsword??? Please msg me :o)"
[13:58] <durkham> hm broad word? maybe : Antidisestablishmentarianism
[13:58] <durkham> :-D
[13:59] <durkham> oops its #arianne
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[15:54] <miasmagoria> heyho all
[15:54] <Bluelads4> hello mister miasmagoria
[15:55] <miasmagoria> erm.. i have a question...
[15:56] <miasmagoria> do you need anything to develop in the kind of "artistic" works like the layout of an item or something?
[15:57] <storyteller> Hi ^^
[15:58] <miasmagoria> oh, hi story
[15:58] <storyteller> Hi Miasmagoria ;-)
[15:59] <miasmagoria> hm... weißt du wo die ganzen gm's grad sind?
[15:59] <Bluelads4> taking a nap from developing :D
[15:59] <Bluelads4> hihi :D
[16:00] <kymara> there are pages on the wiki about this miasmagoria, about what help is needed where
[16:00] <kymara> i can go find the exact ones
[16:00] <kymara> but it's good to come here also just to check before starting work, incase the wiki is out of date
[16:01] <kymara> did you know about the splashscreen competition?
[16:01] <kymara> stendhal splashscreen is the thing with sheep on you see just before you login
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[16:03] <kymara> http://stendhal.game-host.org/wiki/index.php/StendhalRefactoringGraphics is the page full of the specifications for what images should look like, and some descriptions of things needed
[16:03] <kymara> kiheru is the person to get final approval from, i think
[16:04] <miasmagoria> okay, thank you kym :)
[16:04] <kymara> entering the splash screen contest might be a good first start and you dont need his approval on that as its a contest :D
[16:05] <miasmagoria> okay :)
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[21:22] <Exiled> hi
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[21:27] <kymara> puppet_master: did you notice how the raid movie you made is on the wbeage now
[21:27] <kymara> webpage
[21:27] <puppet_master> yep :D
[21:27] <kymara> :)
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