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[0:00] <kymara> you can see exactly how to set up the OfferTransformer.java just if you look at the others in the same package, they're all the same, then dont forget to add to the transformerMap in StendhalRPObjectFactory
[0:02] * durkham waves
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[0:05] * Topic is 'Stendhal 0.72 and Marauroa 2.6 released: http://arianne.sourceforge.net/?arianne_url=games/game_stendhal#downloadsection][ public server: http://stendhal.game-host.org ][ want to chat?: /join #arianne-chat ][ ANY QUESTIONS?: Just ask them and stick around in the channel, maybe an answer will pop up later ]'
[0:05] * Set by kymara on Sun Feb 22 23:37:04 CET 2009
[0:06] <durkham> :-)
[0:06] <durkham> eye missed that :
[0:06] <durkham> (00:04:04) kymara: you can see exactly how to set up the OfferTransformer.java just if you look at the others in the same package, they're all the same, then dont forget to add to the transformerMap in StendhalRPObjectFactory
[0:08] <durkham> @ kymara to answer your question about dynamic zones. i would have preferrred to not add the additional dynamic zones to the release, but if mad says he think it is ok . i assume he tested it to the needed extend.
[0:09] <durkham> in any case we will be able to fix bugs that arise with or without it being added. the probability that bugs are found rises with it being in release.
[0:10] <durkham> i hope this answer is sufficient.
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[6:01] <Demolishun> I take it is down and not something wrong with my client?
[6:01] <Demolishun> I finally got it working by installing the Sun JRE
[6:03] <Demolishun> hello
[6:17] <tigertoes> what is working?
[6:17] <tigertoes> Demolishun are you there?
[6:19] <Demolishun> is the game working. I start and no connection. I see widgets but that is it.
[6:20] <Demolishun> I got the java stuff working, I think.
[6:20] <tigertoes> there is a problem
[6:20] <Demolishun> oh
[6:21] <tigertoes> in a couple hours there will be someone awake who can fix it
[6:21] <Demolishun> Just wanted to make sure it was not something else I needed to fix on my side.
[6:21] <tigertoes> nope, just check back in a few hours :)
[6:21] <Demolishun> will have to check back tomorrow then.
[6:22] <tigertoes> ok, thanks for playing
[6:22] <Demolishun> haha, haven't played yet. :)
[6:22] <tigertoes> awww
[6:22] <tigertoes> now i understand your earlier message
[6:23] <tigertoes> well, be sure to come back, it is a great game :)
[6:23] <Demolishun> how many people generally play at once?
[6:23] <tigertoes> in peak hours between 20 and 46
[6:24] <tigertoes> depends on who is working, who is in school... that kind of thing
[6:25] <tigertoes> the game is still in development stages, so i feel the numbers will grow
[6:25] <Demolishun> I played VO for a while, but the depth of what you could do was really shallow.
[6:26] <tigertoes> dont know that one
[6:26] <tigertoes> stendhal is the first online game i played
[6:26] <Demolishun> Vendette Online, space mmo with twitch based fighting
[6:26] <tigertoes> oh
[6:26] <tigertoes> i played this game once and was hooked ;)
[6:27] <Demolishun> can you make armor and weapons?
[6:27] <Demolishun> can you enchant things?
[6:27] <tigertoes> not yet.. we have discussed being able to modify weapons.. upgrade them
[6:27] <tigertoes> and there is discussion about aging things so that you would have to get upgrades or new ones
[6:28] <tigertoes> we havent gotten to magic yet
[6:28] <Demolishun> that would be cool. I used to play moria years ago and made some nice enchanted weapons
[6:28] <tigertoes> do you code in java?
[6:28] <Demolishun> i code in everything
[6:28] <tigertoes> we need good coders here
[6:29] <tigertoes> stick around and talk to the people who will be around in a few hours
[6:29] <Demolishun> cant gotta sleep and get up at 4:30am (mountain time)
[6:29] <tigertoes> i will make that statement a little differently
[6:29] <tigertoes> we need MORE good coders here.. i really put my foot in my mouth with the first comment
[6:30] * tigertoes sorry guys
[6:30] <Demolishun> haha
[6:30] <tigertoes> ok, get to bed... then check back in :)
[6:30] <Demolishun> what kind of DB do you use?
[6:31] <tigertoes> mysql
[6:31] <Demolishun> that is something I would like to learn about. How people structure their DBs for RPGs
[6:32] <tigertoes> well, you can always get a java ide (i think most of us use eclipse) and download the code from sorceforge and then set it up on your computer and explore
[6:32] <Demolishun> i play around with the Torque game engine and use sqlite as my DB for a single player RPG. Still trying to get a good grasp of how to structure the DB.
[6:32] <tigertoes> you will also have to download and install mysql
[6:32] <Demolishun> I probably already have it. At least I did on my laptop.
[6:33] <tigertoes> we have lots of good heads you can pick info from ;)
[6:33] <Demolishun> sure, I will look at it
[6:33] <tigertoes> on occasion, i even have great ideas
[6:33] <Demolishun> cool
[6:33] <Demolishun> I will have to come back tomorrow, thanks for the info!
[6:34] <tigertoes> ok, see you then, bye
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[6:55] <Tari|Stendhal> moin
[6:56] <tigertoes> howdy :)
[6:56] <tigertoes> you seem to be first one awake
[6:56] <Tari|Stendhal> :)
[6:56] <Tari|Stendhal> hm, and it is allready 7am here :) did you guys notice that the server is "black" again?
[6:57] <tigertoes> yes, i have left message for kym...
[6:57] <Tari|Stendhal> ok :)
[6:58] <tigertoes> but now that you are here, i feel i can go to bed..
[6:58] <tigertoes> how long will you be around?
[6:59] <Tari|Stendhal> ok, i wanted to do some household now... for what do you need me?
[7:00] <tigertoes> just to carry on.. if someone comes in and says, hey, i have a black screen, you can tell them someone will be awake soon to fix problem
[7:00] <tigertoes> you dont have too...
[7:02] <Tari|Stendhal> well, i can stay i while... 30 minutes maybe... but later i have work... so i don't have much time
[7:02] <tigertoes> ok.. not to worry then, i dont think it will be long before they are awake... i am nodding myself, so i really do have to go... take care, will see you again sometime :)
[7:03] <Tari|Stendhal> good night :) sweet dreams :)
[7:03] <tigertoes> thanks :)
[7:46] <Tari|Stendhal> i am sorry, i really have to go now
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[8:44] <erdnuggel> good mornig
[8:44] <erdnuggel> server down again?
[8:49] <madmetzger> the chatlog says that tari had problems
[8:49] <madmetzger> i can check, too
[8:50] <madmetzger> yes, i have a black screen, too
[8:51] <madmetzger> we have to wait until a server admin arrives
[8:58] <erdnuggel> grmpf, schon wieder ;o)
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[10:41] * Topic is 'Stendhal 0.72 and Marauroa 2.6 released: http://arianne.sourceforge.net/?arianne_url=games/game_stendhal#downloadsection][ public server: http://stendhal.game-host.org ][ want to chat?: /join #arianne-chat ][ ANY QUESTIONS?: Just ask them and stick around in the channel, maybe an answer will pop up later ]'
[10:41] * Set by kymara on Sun Feb 22 23:37:04 CET 2009
[10:46] <durkham1> restarted server
[10:47] <durkham1> found this https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2723048&group_id=1111&atid=101111
[11:08] <kymara> hm, that was the same thing that shut down the server the other day when i was in edinburgh
[11:10] <kymara> thanks for your answers and pasting teh bit eye missed durkham1
[11:11] <durkham1> yw
[11:11] <kymara> i'm still thinking on the island - i don't like that the turn notifier still can't be remove cleanly so the removed corpses leave those messages
[11:12] <durkham1> i suppose the error found in logs is caused by removing the zone from world
[11:12] <durkham1> i will have a look at it asap
[11:12] <durkham1> as i guess it might be either already fixed in cvs, or i know where to look at
[11:12] <kymara> really? i just had no idea what it could be from?
[11:13] <kymara> it seems to happen quite rarely as we've only had two cases of that fatal exception since 0.72 released
[11:13] <kymara> thats good that you have an inkling :)
[11:19] <durkham1> one of the reason why i did not want to have it used widely , as the thread handling in all code is a bit 'individualistic' :-)
[11:19] <kymara> hehe
[11:19] <kymara> i think it'll be better not to have it in this release
[11:20] <kymara> having more FATAL thingies would be bad, and there would definitely be more use. but we can have a release shortly after easter to remove easter bunny if wanted, and then it can go in then, so it neednt be a long wait, if it's ready
[11:23] <kymara> does that sound ok durkham?
[11:28] <kymara> i'm trying to think what special things i can do in the vaults to reproduce it
[11:35] <durkham1> hard to reproduce, but the error is a familiar one
[11:36] <durkham1> i did not yet have a look at the code, but i remember looking at it and findig it suspicious
[11:36] <durkham1> :-)
[11:36] <durkham1> i be in rathaus tonight, so it might become late before i find time
[11:39] <kymara> ok
[11:40] <kymara> i was thinking of release today, though - but i'll remove island
[11:40] <kymara> is that ok or would you rather have a chance first to look at this bug?
[11:50] <durkham1> it is ok for me as we only would need a hot fix replace on server side, if at all .
[11:50] <kymara> ok :)
[11:50] <durkham1> you need to put the newest marauroa into release
[11:50] <kymara> i will do
[11:50] <durkham1> :-)
[11:50] <kymara> i updated version number to 2.6.1
[11:50] <durkham1> good girl
[11:50] <kymara> and i checked that i can tell webstart and the updated client how to use that
[11:50] <kymara> not 2.5
[11:51] <durkham1> yay
[11:51] <kymara> (it was using 2.5 as i didn't know before how to update them)
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[11:51] <kymara> i think you can still chekc it too if you tell your updated client to use that alternative file at update.properties.xxx
[11:51] <kymara> i didn't delete it
[11:51] <kymara> and i will put the new marauroa jar in for server too
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[14:01] <xiaohe> hi
[14:01] <xiaohe> hi
[14:02] <xiaohe> hi
[14:03] <madmetzger> hi
[15:03] <CIA-19> arianne_rpg: kymara VERSION_00_RELEASE_73 * stendhal/data/conf/zones/fado.xml: remove challenger npc from 0.73 branch
[15:05] <CIA-19> arianne_rpg: kymara VERSION_00_RELEASE_73 * stendhal/doc/CHANGES.txt: move adventure island part of changelog to 0.XX
[15:52] <kymara> marauroa update is done
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[16:00] <kymara> sf doesn't want me to doreleases though, it has changed the project pages and hidden where to access file release :P luckily i have a url saved but i can't find otherwise how to get to it
[16:01] <kymara> in fact i've had the feeling for ages that sf doesn't want me to do releases any more, it keeps changing the protocols
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[16:29] <kymara> please can anyone help me test if the updater magic is working correctly please?
[16:29] <kymara> if you have a client which is not a cvs client or self build, you can help
[16:29] <kymara> if it's one you downloaded as a zip
[16:32] <kymara> or if you ordinarily use webstart, too, you can help
[16:38] <gummipferd> (16:37:53) gummipferd: what do i need to do?
[16:38] <gummipferd> :P
[16:38] <gummipferd> im soo willing to help
[16:38] <gummipferd> !!
[16:38] <kymara> if you want to help then if you could open your ~/stendhal/jar/jar.properties file with a text editor
[16:38] <gummipferd> (and have no choice anymore anyway^^⁾
[16:38] <kymara> and add the line server.update-prop=http\://arianne.sourceforge.net/stendhal/updates/update.properties.xxx
[16:39] <kymara> (don't delte what's in it already)
[16:39] <kymara> and then start your client normally
[16:39] <kymara> and tell me how much you're asked to download and if you got 0.73 at the end
[16:39] <kymara> if you're windows then ~ means c documents and settings username bla
[16:40] <gummipferd> 1.140 kb
[16:40] <kymara> if you're just asked to download a littlew extra like 900 ish kb i am happy
[16:41] <kymara> hmm thats good
[16:41] <kymara> good
[16:41] <kymara> and what's now in your stendhal/jar/ folder?
[16:41] <kymara> hopefully the diff from 0.72 to 0.73, rather than a file called stendhal-0.73.jar for exmaple
[16:41] <gummipferd> the diff .72-.73
[16:41] <kymara> yay
[16:41] <kymara> and marauroa 2.6.1 will be there too
[16:41] <kymara> good good thank you
[16:42] <kymara> when i first tried it on mine, i foolishly deleted the line i alreadyhad (forgetting i wasn't supposed to) and it meant i had to do a full download
[16:42] <gummipferd> so wheres my cake?
[16:42] <kymara> so that's why i need extra help this time to check
[16:42] <kymara> in the release you'll get better than cake, you'll get presents in your houses chests. can you wait that long?
[16:42] <kymara> i can release now you see :P
[16:43] <kymara> i might wait till kiheru gets back though for the extra support
[16:43] <gummipferd> so i have to pay for my houses now?
[16:43] <kymara> you have to read the news article or changelog
[16:43] * gummipferd yawns
[16:43] <kymara> if you don't know where changelog is kept on cvs by now you haven't been helping enough with testing
[16:43] <gummipferd> :P
[16:43] <kymara> ohj come on
[16:44] <kymara> i have enough work to do around release
[16:44] <kymara> without typing out extra info which already exists on web
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[16:44] <gummipferd> im just kidding
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[16:44] <kymara> good
[16:44] <kymara> but my sense of humour is even worse than usual when i am stressed :P
[16:46] <CIA-19> arianne_rpg: kymara * stendhal/src/games/stendhal/client/update/update.properties: commit changes to the example updater magic file, as in future people can then look at the diffs to see what was needed to make it work
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[17:34] <postman-bot> Administrator SHOUTS: Hi, I will be shutting down server for a restart in 3 minutes, please be ready to logout then
[17:35] <kymara> gummipferd: you can delete that line from your file after you're done btw
[17:38] <postman-bot> Administrator SHOUTS: Hi, please logout now and return in 10 minutes. The server is being restarted and will be down for a while. Thanks
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[17:51] <storyteller> Congrats for new release! ^^
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[17:53] <kymara> ta :)
[17:53] <kymara> will update channel topic when i have checked my house :P
[17:55] <storyteller> ^^
[17:58] <kymara> someone needs to tell vesper to login or lose his house in 6 months
[17:59] <gummipferd> ah yes i wanted to do that
[17:59] <gummipferd> he isnt online
[17:59] <kymara> and madmetzger tell hendrik :)
[18:00] <madmetzger> i'll do tm i am already at home :-D
[18:00] <madmetzger> but: congrats to release!
[18:01] <gummipferd> 1000 per month? youre making ppl pay through the nose!^^
[18:01] <kymara> ah, you had plenty time to complain abut that in the testing period
[18:02] <kymara> so i will ignore anything you say
[18:02] <gummipferd> ah i forgot you lost your humour
[18:02] * kymara tries not to kill gummipferd
[18:02] <kymara> where is my gin
[18:02] <gummipferd> ouch ouch aw ouch, try harder pls
[18:03] <kymara> sorry i'm still busying with aftermath of release. if you want me to kill you faster, offer to help
[18:34] * ChanServ sets mode +o kymara
[18:34] <kymara> ./kick Bluelads4
[18:34] <kymara> no not really
[18:35] <Bluelads4> :(
[18:35] * kymara changes topic to 'Stendhal 0.73 and Marauroa 2.6.1 released: http://arianne.sourceforge.net/?arianne_url=games/game_stendhal#downloadsection][ public server: http://stendhal.game-host.org ][ want to chat?: /join #arianne-chat ] [ ANY QUESTIONS?: Just ask them and stick around in the channel, maybe an answer will pop up later ]'
[18:35] * kymara sets mode -o kymara
[18:49] <kymara> news wise i have added to sf news, server website, arianne-announce email, and the slashdot firehose, so far
[18:49] <kymara> and the main article at arianne.sf.net of course
[19:01] <madmetzger> yay kym
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[21:56] <durkham> yay kym :-)
[21:57] <kymara> ehehe
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[22:23] <CIA-19> arianne_rpg: astridemma * stendhal/src/games/stendhal/server/ (trade/Shop.java actions/AcceptOfferAction.java): @override at implemented interface methods does NOT compile in java 1.5
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[22:23] <durkham> _eye_fill_in: HELP
[22:23] <durkham> :-)
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[22:26] <tigertoes> congrats kymara on release :)
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[22:35] <kymara> thanks tig. i didn't do teh freshmeat thingy yet :P
[22:35] <tigertoes> thats why i came on,, i will do freshmeat and the other...
[22:35] <tigertoes> but it will have to wait a couple hours.., is that ok?
[22:36] <tigertoes> just got back from dentist and we have to take plastic off coldframe now
[22:37] <tigertoes> happypenguin
[22:38] <kymara> :D sure if it was urgent urgent i'd have done it
[22:38] <tigertoes> ok, great
[22:38] <kymara> instead i am getting distracted by after the release is before the release thingies
[22:38] <kymara> thank you
[22:38] <tigertoes> i found stendhal on another place the other day
[22:38] <kymara> woo!
[22:38] <kymara> where?
[22:38] <tigertoes> their blurb isnt updated..
[22:39] <tigertoes> will have to check and then give you url... but the link was current.. that is main thing
[22:39] <kymara> oh is it that thing like a wiki?
[22:39] <tigertoes> dont remember.. and i am brain dead now, sorry
[22:39] <kymara> ok
[22:39] <tigertoes> it is in my history, and i will find it
[22:40] <tigertoes> ok, see you later :)
[22:47] <durkham> i found where the bug happens probably but i cannot understand why :-( so i need to think about it
[22:47] * durkham is too tired for brain work
[22:50] <kymara> thats ok i would be too tired to update the server tonight :P
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[23:07] <durkham> gn8
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[23:12] <kiheru> anyone else has this problem?:
[23:12] <kiheru> ssh: connect to host arianne.cvs.sourceforge.net port 22: Connection refused
[23:12] <kiheru> cvs [commit aborted]: end of file from server (consult above messages if any)
[23:13] <kymara> yes me too, i tried a cvs diff just now
[23:15] <kymara> this is the only thing reported in site status page and i dont think it can be it: http://apps.sourceforge.net/wordpress/sourceforge/2009/03/31/2009-03-31-mailing-list-archives-planned-maintenance/
[23:16] <kiheru> I don't think that either
[23:16] <kymara> do you want me to make a support reequest, i'm logged in
[23:17] <kymara> oh, except they have a new way now
[23:17] <kymara> support on irc
[23:17] <kymara> lets go spam them
[23:18] <kymara> on #sourceforge
[23:18] <kiheru> the message just changed
[23:18] <kiheru> Cannot access /cvsroot/arianne/CVSROOT
[23:18] <kiheru> No such file or directory
[23:18] <tigertoes> happypenguin and freshmeat updated
[23:19] <kymara> thanks v much tigertoes
[23:19] <tigertoes> sure :)
[23:21] <kymara> it's back up now, cvs
[23:25] <CIA-19> arianne_rpg: kiheru * stendhal/tiled/tileset/animation.seq: animated the candle flames in item/furniture/light/lights_candle.png
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